“Q” in the Quran, quick note

Recently on a discussion on code19, a facebook user mentioned that some parts of code19 fit without having to remove the verses. An example would be the Quranic initials. She even provided a link. I only wrote comments regarding the first section (the letter Q).

The truth is, I see no consistency on how the code, or miracle or whatever, exactly works. We’ll get to that in another post maybe. Plus, I tried to be as objective as possible. Anyway, here’s the note. Feel free to correct my counts since they were done using very simple tools such as online browsers, computer applications and even the Microsoft Word search & replace feature.

Before we kick this off, I would like the reader to know who numbered and indexed the Quran— who decided that the basmallah is or is not a verse by itself? For example, almost all basmallahs in other surahs are not considered to be verses except for surah 1 (al-fatiha). Let me simply note to you that this is the traditional belief. Must I remind anyone what traditional means?

The Quran itself is a highly consistent book that is sadly being read using highly inconsistent tools. Before we establish any “code” or discover any “miracle” within it that’s very connected to the numbers and positions of the verses, we might as well first make sure we’re using the right index. The one used nowadays is based on hadith. There have been narrations, Prophetic or not, claiming the Prophet ordered them to add the basmallah to every surah and how they couldn’t remember whether surah 9 had one or not. It’s not safe at all to believe these things instead of just dealing with what we already have between our hands.

So here are simple facts we can discover if we had been given the Quran as a text without the fancy layout:

    1. There are only 113 Surahs, not a surah with a missing basmallah. The basmallah isn’t missing— it’s just not there! Chapter 9 is just the other half of chapter 8. Who suggested otherwise? Narrations. Who justified this use? A sunni story on how surah al tawba (chapter 9) was addressing the idol-worshippers. Yeah well, so what? A million other verses and chapters address the “bad guys”. They start with basmallah too. 
    2. We either count all basmallahs as verse numbers or neglect them all as verse numbers. Basmallahs serve as signs to indicate the beginning of a new surah, or “phase”.
    3. Numbering should only be for index purposes to help readers find verses better. There’s nothing divine about them.

From http://www.mathmiracle.com:

“Sura 50 is entitled “Q,” prefixed with “Q,” and the first verse reads, “Q, and the glorious Quran.” This indicates that “Q” stands for “Quran,” and the total number of Q’s in the two Q-initialed suras represents the Quran’s 114 suras (57+57 = 114 = 19×6).”

True, they are repeated 57 times in both surahs that contain a Q initial. However, they’re not 114 chapters, but 113.

“This idea is strengthened by the fact that “the Quran” occurs in the Quran 57 times.”

Wrong! Al-Quran (the Quran) was actually mentioned 50 times in the Quran, not 57.

“Sura 42 consists of 53 verses, and 42+53 = 95 = 19×5.”

If we adopt the safer index system, it’s actually chapter 41.
41+53 = 94 = 19 * 4.94736842

“Sura 50 consists of 45 verses, and 50+45 = 95, same total as in Sura 42.”

Same as above.

“The frequency of occurrence of “Q” in Sura “Q” (No. 50) is 57, 19×3″

The problem is that 57+50=107, and 107/19 = 5.63157895.

“The letter “Q” occurs in the other Q-initialed sura (No. 42) exactly the same number of times, 57, 19×3.”

That’s actually true (already mentioned above).

“The total occurrence of the letter “Q” in the two Q- initialed suras is 114, which equals the number of suras in the Quran.”


“The Quran” is mentioned in the Quran 57 times, 19×3.”

My Zekr (Quran browser) application says “AL QURAN” was only mentioned 50 times and “QURAN” 70 times. 50+70=120. 120/19 = 6.31578947. I just used another Quran-search online. Same thing. “AL QURAN” is only found 50 times.

“The number of Q’s in all verses numbered “19” throughout the Quran is 76, 19×4.”

Sadly, I didn’t have anything good enough to perform that calculation.

The only two things that did make sense were the number of times the letter Q appeared in chapters 42 and 50. They both appeared 57 times. That’s pretty much it.


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